kristeni
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'63 Shasta SCS
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Post by kristeni on Jun 13, 2012 16:45:59 GMT -5
Hmm, I really wonder if I really need a new axle to have brakes put on our '63 16ft SCS We got the bearings repacked recently and noticed there's nothing left of the brakes. None.. I was told by one mechanic I needed a new axle because a new brake assembly wouldn't 'fit'. I thought to myself, is that really true? What has been your experience with adding new brake assemblies to your existing axle? Anyone know what the rating (3500 lbs or ?) is on these old axles? I haven't checked the axle to see if it warrants replacing yet, but say if it's OK, I'd rather not and just get new brake assemblies. Attachments:
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Post by dawgpound on Jun 13, 2012 21:24:52 GMT -5
I don't know anything about the 1960's trailers. Hoping that someone will chime in on this.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Jun 13, 2012 22:01:50 GMT -5
Where the rest of the brakes? There should be two brake shoes, a magnet, a actuator and bunch of springs. If that's all you got then yes you need tho replace your brake assemblies and probably your axle. I found one one e-trailer or trailer part.com with new leaf springs for about 500 with shipping. Yes 3500lbs is correct. If you replace your axle will you sell me your old one?
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Post by brianklein on Jun 13, 2012 22:56:25 GMT -5
Try calling Redneck Trailer Supplies. I believe that they have a place in Denver, but the only number that I have is in Frederick.It is 303-702-1799. I spoke with Jesse or Jamie a couple of weeks ago, and he said that the 4 bolt backing plates were standard, and he had the complete hydraulic backing plates that would fit. He also said that he had the electric brakes as well. The issue came in getting the new wheel bearings that would work with the old axle and the new drum. I had to get some measurements and I have not called him back. If you have any luck please let us know as I also have a 63 that I need some brakes for. Brian
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kristeni
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'63 Shasta SCS
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Post by kristeni on Jun 14, 2012 10:27:22 GMT -5
schweetcruisers, that's all we got, no other brake parts were in there. All gone. Will let you know if we're going to replace and sell the old axle. brianklein, thanks. I called Redneck today. Jamie said the axle shape/design is a drop axle (not attached to the frame directly), and is almost obsolete. She didn't think that their brake assemblies would work on the drop axle. I sent them the same pic as above.
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Post by diamondrelics on Jun 14, 2012 11:43:51 GMT -5
I redid my axle without the brakes. Most of the assemblies on these old trailers are obsolete. My brake were removed probably 25 years ago and it pulled and stopped just fine without them ( and I live on a steep hill, and pulled her down with my Wrangler). Also you can get a drop axle with the brake assemblies. Just look on ebay.
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Post by Bow_Tied on Jun 14, 2012 12:31:17 GMT -5
I don't know if this will work: Look at the brake backing plate mounting, particularily the bolt patern. See if there are any whole assemblies that will work. If not perhaps one is close enough to modify Or make an adaptor plate for. www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Brakes/Dexter/23-469.html
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Post by schweetcruisers on Jun 14, 2012 20:03:16 GMT -5
I don't know, a 16 SCS is a big heavy trailer, I think I'd want brakes coming down Floyd Hill! The axle is really easy to change out, all you'll need is a Saturday afternoon, some common tools and a can of PB Blaster! As I found not a lot of local people have vintage parts, even the vintage/salvage place in Henderson, its such a great feeling when they look at you like your crazy! If you need help let me know!
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kristeni
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'63 Shasta SCS
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Post by kristeni on Jun 23, 2012 10:44:03 GMT -5
We managed to be ok going up and down the mountains without brakes. But that's not to say I wasn't a little apprehensive about it. I would like to get them on there eventually. Schweetcruisers, I may hit ya up for some advice when we get around to it! Thanks.
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Post by azshastanut on Jun 23, 2012 12:21:08 GMT -5
The entire brake assembly is not obsolete! I have done a 59 and 61 Airflyte and also a Pace American cargo trailer. It is a simple remove and replace operation, four nuts and two wires. Be sure to replace the wheel seals so you don't ruin your new brake shoes. The new assemblies come complete with everything mounted on new backing plates. It is actually less expensive than replacing individual components, and it's all brand new. Bow-tied posted the Dexter site above and WOW, what a great price. I purchased all of mine on ebay and as I recall they were $65.00 for a pair three years ago. Be sure that you measure your bolt hole dimension so the new backing plates will fit.
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Post by bobt on Aug 1, 2012 15:55:50 GMT -5
schweetcruisers, that's all we got, no other brake parts were in there. All gone. Will let you know if we're going to replace and sell the old axle. brianklein, thanks. I called Redneck today. Jamie said the axle shape/design is a drop axle (not attached to the frame directly), and is almost obsolete. She didn't think that their brake assemblies would work on the drop axle. I sent them the same pic as above. The brakes don't know or care if it's a drop axle or not. You can get standard replacement brake assemblies from places like www.etrailer.com that will bolt right on in place of your old brake backing plate. I'd suggest having someone experienced install them. No need for a new axle!
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Post by kto17 on Aug 1, 2012 19:39:49 GMT -5
I think northern tool also carries the dexter brakes.
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Post by heartsandhotrods on Oct 1, 2012 7:16:36 GMT -5
Might anyone on this board have info re: brakes and drums parts etcetc.. for a 71 Shasta 1400? Specifically where to get rims that fit the original hubcaps? My newly acquired trailer has ok tires, but bolts that seem too difficult to remove without snapping ---- If they do I want replacement drums, etc..
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