Any tips on installing standard seal?

[Gone Kayaking]

I'm having a heck of a time getting the standard seal wedged in between the frame and the glass on my windows. Any tips out there? Spritz of soapy water? I'm afraid of breaking the glass on some and it just seems really like a tight fit on some others.

Or maybe I'm not doing it right.

1. Awning windows. Does it go across the top ledger and all the way around the fixed glass?
2. Fixed windows...between glass and frame all the way around?

Any help/advice gratefully appreciated as always.

[Gone Kayaking]

Okay, so I see it is supposed to go in all the windows, and it appears the po jammed silicone deep into the grooves.

And poooh I just broke the glass on one of the fixed windows trying to get the old silicone that had been jammed in out! Now I have to go to the glass shop

By the way, how are the fixed windows taken apart anyway....I don't see what's holding them toghether. I opened the little tabs on the sides but seems to require more bending than I feel comfortable with .... how to proceed?
Tips on getting the rest of this out without breaking more glass greatly appreciated.

[Atomic Addiction]

You defiantly want to remove the glass before installing the Hehr Standard seal. If you can get the seal on without removing the glass that isn't good. The glass has to press up against the backside of the seal to make the seal work. There shouldn't be any wiggle room.

When you say fixed windows are you talking about Shastas notorious side dinette windows or the Hehr Standard windows? Or are you talking about the little windows on each side of the front window on those earlier trailers?

I am kinda confused as to which we are talking about.

Brian

[Gone Kayaking]

Sorry Brian, frustration was typing last night.
I have a 1956 with 4 kinds of windows.
1. a jaulosie... which is in great shape....though I probably will replace that fuzzy thing (on order)
2. the notorious side dinette windows. I already figured those out.

What I'm having trouble with are
3. The 2 little fixed windows on the sides of the big window in the front. The PO used silicone between the glass and the metal. I can't see how to release the glass. There are no screws, or rivets just little aluminum tabs at the corners. the rim bends to a 90 and then there is another bend to a lip that holds the piece of aluminum which holds the glass against the frame. I looked at Red Dirt's post and my windows are different. I'm quite concerned about bending this and not being able to get it back in. Here are several pics.

the tabs, a little blurry, sorry

4. The awning windows also don't have screws but do seem to have rivets. I have no idea how to remove or replace rivets. I was able to work the seal into the window that goes on back without removing the glass. It seems pretty tight now. On the front window, I'm going to replace the plexi with lexan so that won't be a problem. Maybe I should go ahead and do the same with the two small windows. I also have another broken awning window to replace anyway.

[Gone Kayaking]

Okay so if you had to remove the glass and there weren't screws, just these tabs how would you do it?

[Atomic Addiction]

Ok. I see what is going on there. Those are just like the front windows in trailers like mine. No messing with the tabs...

There is the L shaped aluminum trim pieces on the backside of the window. I see them in the picture. You see the backside of the "L". The upper lip sit in tiny tracks on the window frame. The lower leg of the L shape sits on the glass and presses it toward the front of the outer frame.

You have to pull these out. Work a large putty knife in between the glass and the L shaped aluminum. Sort of work the trim away from the frame pulling toward the middle of the window. You are sort of bending the lower leg a bit to get these out. These will pop out. If you can try not to use something like a screwdriver or anything to pry them from the corners. THESE ARE VERY THIN ALUMINUM! You will bend the hell out of them. Once you get one out it will be easier to get the others out. They are hard but again... treat them with care.

Once out you can remove the glass and clean the frame. The new tape will need clean aluminum to get good adhesion.

Replace the glazing tape on the outer frame...
www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Butyl_Glazing_Tape_p/vts-137.htm

Apply the tape as close to the edge of the aluminum as you can.

Place the glass on the glazing tape.

If you bend the L shaped trim pieces to much now is the time to straighten them the best you can. You will have to work how much angle you will need so the trim is snug against the glass and the glass won't move.

You place the upper lip of the trim in the track and gently push the bottom and it sorta snaps in place. Pressure keeps the trim tight against the glass and the glass is pushed against the glazing tape and the outside of the frame.

I hope I explained this well.

Brian

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[Gone Kayaking]

Yes that makes sense....thanks once again Brian.

[Atomic Addiction]

No sweat. Let me know if you need more help. I will do what I can.

Brian