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Post by jimrob01 on Jun 21, 2011 20:36:06 GMT -5
I'm searching for a nice used 50'5-60's era Shasta, hopefully restored and ready to go, but the big issue is the toilet. How hard is it to install one... if there has never been one?
Jim
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Post by blu26ovl on Jun 23, 2011 13:01:32 GMT -5
I installed a flushing camper toilet in my 69 compact. I do not have any holding tanks at all so I'll be doing full hookup camping. You can buy small black water holding tanks if you need to go that way. if you don't have room underneath the camper for a tank you can have it above the floor and box it in and use the shorter toilet to mount on top. There is also the option of using a external portable tank if you do not have access to sewer hookup where you may camp. I used my old closet and the area that housed the ice box and opened it up to make the bathroom. With full hookup camping it has been no problem. I used a 3" toilet flange from Lowe's and 3" pipe and elbows and fittings to complete the installation.
Brent
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Post by shastaman on Jan 12, 2012 22:15:22 GMT -5
Do you have pictures of the process
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Post by Gone Kayaking on Jan 12, 2012 23:14:18 GMT -5
many if not most of us use porta potties. My fav is the luggable loo. It's really a lot easier than doing a black water tank etc.... And you can go anywhere.
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Post by blu26ovl on Jan 16, 2012 10:36:22 GMT -5
Shastaman, here a a couple of photo's. Not sure how much hep they may be. Like I said my camping is going to be full hookup so it works for me to not have holding tanks but if you're planning on camping w/o full hookup you may want to consider a porta-potty. I can still buy or make a small portable holding tank if I need to camp w/o full hookup but it's so nice not to have to dump a portable tank. Flush and go. By the way, this in in a 69 Compact. It's also a wet bath with shower. Attachments:
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Post by blu26ovl on Jan 16, 2012 10:37:24 GMT -5
Here's one shot of plumbing under camper. Attachments:
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Post by blu26ovl on Jan 16, 2012 10:43:18 GMT -5
Here's photo with shower and kitchen sink lines connected to main line. I put ball valve on shower drain to keep any odors from coming up through shower drain. Just open valve when using shower and then close. We have had no issues with this setup. Attachments:
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Post by vikx on Jan 17, 2012 2:04:13 GMT -5
Installation is not difficult if the trailer has the floor plan for a toilet. If not, it may mean re-designing the entire trailer to include a big enough space. Porta pottis come in every size and shape and they are *portable*. Empty in a normal flush toilet.
The sewer hoses and what-not necessary with a black tank are annoying. Not a lot a space to store them cleanly. Not always a dump tank.
I too, like the Luggable Loo.
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Post by Hamlet on Jan 18, 2012 20:42:16 GMT -5
Another vote for the Luggable Loo. We don't find it either icky or difficult, and are happy not to have to deal with blackwater tanks and hoses.
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Post by lopo on Apr 22, 2012 19:31:10 GMT -5
Hamlet's person, do you keep the Luggable Loo in the potty closet? I'm planning to do that and thinking of using the compactor bags and peat moss with it, but I am wondering if it's not going to be tippy. I have even thought about fastening it to the floor since I won't be using it without bags so won't have to carry it out.
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Post by Hamlet on Apr 23, 2012 0:00:59 GMT -5
Hamlet is the canned ham style, so the closet was big enough for the potty without any other modifications (well, aside from the raised roof line so my husband could stand up inside, but that's another story). We got a shower pan with a raised portion and set the potty on that. It's heavy enough, even empty, that it doesn't slide around. I don't know what the peat moss method is, but we have found it easy to empty. If the peat is easier, let us know how this works, how often the bag has to be changed, etc.
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Post by lopo on Apr 23, 2012 6:58:01 GMT -5
I haven't tried it yet, but here's the review from amazon.com, and I read another review that suggested compactor bags because they're very tough:
I have two Luggable Loos...one in my camping trailer and the other in my workshop, which has no plumbing. Using the approach described in The Humanure Handbook: A Guide to Composting Human Manure, Third Edition and peat moss as my cover material, here's how I use the Luggable Loo:
1. Turn down the top edge of a brown paper bag and place it in the bucket.
2. Break up some peat moss and put about 3"or 4" in the bottom of the brown paper bag.
3. Place the seat/cover on the bucket.
4. Use whenever Nature calls.
5. Cover each deposit with peat moss.
6. When the brown paper bag gets about half full, fold down the top, remove it, and bury or compost it.
7. Rinse the bucket with vinegar.
8. Repeat starting at Step 1.
By using peat moss, I have never had an excess of moisture to contend with, nor have I ever had a problem with odor. . .
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Post by boandsusan on Apr 23, 2012 15:54:04 GMT -5
So let me get this straight! Luggable Loo = bucket+toilet seat+Bag? Wow and all this time I thought Luggable Loo was some sort of brand or model name, LOL. Thats cool ! But I like my porta-potti.
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Post by lopo on Apr 23, 2012 16:02:37 GMT -5
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Post by boandsusan on Apr 23, 2012 16:17:49 GMT -5
Well, It is a brand name! Neat idea.
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Post by mamasherb on Apr 23, 2012 16:53:16 GMT -5
Very neat idea. Thanks so much for posting this, lopo. I really like the paper bag/peat moss solution. I want one for the camper and one for home emergency preparedness (like this past Easter weekend when our two kids came home and each brought several friends with them  . I wouldn't bury the bags in my vegetable garden, but I sure would bury them in my flower garden. Thanks! |
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Post by cowcharge on Apr 23, 2012 16:59:53 GMT -5
Blu, have you used that toilet setup yet? Everything I've read says that you can't leave your dump valve open when using a hookup, because you need to have the large quantity of liquid in the holding tank to flush all the solid waste through the hose. With no tank at all I would think it would be the same, if not worse. I'm confused how this will work.
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Post by lopo on Apr 23, 2012 17:38:29 GMT -5
I like the idea of not having water in it and not having to buy chemicals for it. Kitty litter would work, or sawdust, if you've got a free source of that, but I am going to try the peat first. It takes me back to the Whole Earth Catalog which was, by the way, published between '68 and '72.
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Post by mamasherb on Apr 23, 2012 17:50:12 GMT -5
Estoy simpatico, loco.  |
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Post by blu26ovl on Apr 23, 2012 19:12:27 GMT -5
Cowcharge, used camper 4 trips and so far and timing has worked out to use bath house for solids. Discussed this with another vintage camper with same set up this weekend at rally and he said he flushes extra water or closes valve, since like mine can hold about 3 gallons of water in the plumbing before valve and waits till they use water from sink or other liquids in toilet and opens valve and let drain then. He said that has worked fine.
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Post by blu26ovl on Apr 23, 2012 21:48:50 GMT -5
Cowcharge, another thing to think about is with a holding tank there's a lot of area in there for solids and liquids to collect and then dump through a 3" opening so i can see where you would have an issue with an open valve all the time. It would take a lot of water to move the solids to the drain valve by itself. With no holding tank whatever you flush has a direct path to valve and through hose so it would not take such a large amount of water to move.
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Post by phoebrams on Aug 30, 2012 21:07:38 GMT -5
I'm using the portable loo, very handy and convenient.
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. I wouldn't bury the bags in my vegetable garden, but I sure would bury them in my flower garden. Thanks!
