Butyl tape for windows

[Rusty Wings]

I'm planning to remove and reseal at least the rear window in my 1500 (that's the only one that leaks but if it goes well i'll probably do them all)

Can anyone recommend a butyl tape and where to get it? Also, are there any online tutorials or pictures that step through the process?

Thanks.

-Rusty

[Atomic Addiction]

-Rusty

You want the 3/4 butyl tape from Vintage Trailer Supply...

www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Butyl_Putty_Tape_p/vts-419.htm

It's popular so sometimes they go out of stock but it doesn't take long for them to get it back in stock.

The window thing was sorta covered by Red Dirt...

reddirtshasta.blogspot.com/2009/08/windows-windows-windows.html

Not sure if this is what you are looking for.

Hope this helps.
Brian

[Rusty Wings]

Exactly what i was looking for. Thanks Brian!

[Rusty Wings]

Another thing, I want to try to polish the window trim and eyelid things. Will this stuff work? (I have a gift certificate for VTS so i want to put in one large order):

www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Nuvite_Polish_s/19.htm

And if so, can you recommend the grade or grades and size that i'd need? I don't think the metal is in too bad of shape.

Thanks again.
-Rusty

[Atomic Addiction]

Rusty-

Nuvite will certainly work. A lot of Airstreamers use it for polishing their trailers.

I myself have not used it. I use tripoli brown and blue polishing compounds from Caswell Inc.

www.caswellplating.com/buffs/buffing.htm

Two things...

If you are going to pull the windows out to replace the rubber seals and the putty tape you could do some wet sanding on the aluminum that you want to polish. This would cut down on the aggressiveness of the polish that you have to start with. Airstreamers don't usually wet sand their entire trailer so they usually start with a more aggressive cut.

Second. If you aren't going to pull them it could be messy. Soft polishes like Nuvite have a tendency to get all over the place. I would tape and paper off all of the surfaces around the window. You don't want that stuff getting on your paint.

If you wanted something less messy, you could simply use something like Mothers or Diamond Brite and apply it by hand. It is MUCH cheaper.

If you do use Nuvite remember a couple of things...

1. You have to have different polishing pads for each grade of polish you use. You don't want "G6" used on your "Grade S" pad. That's like crossing the streams.

2. Don't go crazy with the ordering. Start with the small containers. You can always get more.

So which grades to use? I don't know for sure to be honest. I will say that it depends on how the surface is prepped (wet sanded or not) prior to polishing.

Hope this helps a bit.
Brian

[rkymtnman]

Sure helps me Thanks Brian!

[Rusty Wings]

Thanks again Brian!

[Rusty Wings]

Does anyone have another source for the Butyl Tape? VTS is still out of stock.

[rkymtnman]

You can try the Metal Company:

www.themetalcompany.com/

I am pretty sure they carry it.

[pga26]

Rusty Wings, are you in the Phoenix area? I ask because I believe you commented on the Plug and Play shasta on craigslist in Phx. If you are then Little Dealer Little Prices has it for about $7 for a thirty foot roll. I believe its the same stuff VTS sells. Camping World also has it, but it's not the same stuff and I don't like it as much.

[offspringin]

I have a couple of questions reguarding sealing windows/lights. My 1970 has replacement windows for its larger side and front windows (i suspect). While doing this stripdown/rebuild thing to it, i had planned to pull the windows, clean and re-seal them. Having tried to do a little research on how this is done i have to say im a little more confused. Not so much as to the process of pulling them/installing them but what type of sealant to use

There is putty tape and Butyl tape yes? If im reading the forums correctly i would want to use the Butyl tape around my windows and putty under the clearance/tail lights? Or Buytl all around?

I also have an outside outlet that a PO added, would it be best to make a little rain guard for it and screw it above sealing behind the guard? If not what would i use to seal this outlet cover plate so its waterproof. One of the POs siliconed the crap out of it but i was able to get most all that off. (is there a trick to removing silicone?)

Also have seen people recomment Eternabond caulk, would it be something to use under/around the lights?

Along these same lines, i had planned to replace my roof vent tonight. Ordered Buytl tape. Of course the roof is aluminum. was the correct tape to puchase? What should be used here?

[Gone Kayaking]

I used butyl tape everywhere that metal is on metal. The caulks that you want to use are tempro or others which have www.vintagetrailersupply.com/TremPro_635_p/vts-267.htm

These stay flexible, provide great adhesion, and are paintable.

For your outside outlet, I would install an outdoor rated "waterproof" cover. You can find them in home centers, or rv places.

For your roof vent, if you can, do build up the framing underneath so that there is no pooling on the roof around the vent, which is where water can get in. Butyl tape is the right stuff to use. Use a bead of trempro so seal the edge, and a dab on top of each of the screws and you should be good to go.

I'm not sure what you mean by replacement windows....it would be helpful to post some pics. Do you have a restoration thread? THat would be the place to document your progress and post these kind of questions as you go, so that folks can scroll up and look at what you've been doing as they consider your questions.

[offspringin]

Aug 24, 2011 10:56:12 GMT -5 Gone Kayaking said:

I used butyl tape everywhere that metal is on metal. The caulks that you want to use are tempro or others which have www.vintagetrailersupply.com/TremPro_635_p/vts-267.htm

These stay flexible, provide great adhesion, and are paintable.

For your outside outlet, I would install an outdoor rated "waterproof" cover. You can find them in home centers, or rv places.

For your roof vent, if you can, do build up the framing underneath so that there is no pooling on the roof around the vent, which is where water can get in. Butyl tape is the right stuff to use. Use a bead of trempro so seal the edge, and a dab on top of each of the screws and you should be good to go.

I'm not sure what you mean by replacement windows....it would be helpful to post some pics. Do you have a restoration thread? THat would be the place to document your progress and post these kind of questions as you go, so that folks can scroll up and look at what you've been doing as they consider your questions.

Excellent, this is what i needed.

The outdoor outlet is "waterproof" but im not certain the box is all that sealed in the wall. The cover came with a gasket which i installed but again. not certain its sealing as good as it should. Is there something you would recommend sealing around the outdoor cover with? Maybe that tempro?

Will do for the roof vent, there was rot in 2 of the members holding the vent. Ill be adding more supports from surrounding members. PO used the Kool Patch i think it was all around and over all seams. During a heavy downpour i went out and looked all around the camper (its interior is stripped) and didnt see any leaking.

I do not have my own resto thread. Suppose i should start one. I have been taking some pictures along the way. Only picture i have with me right now of the windows is from the inside. You can see the smaller bunk window above which i know is original, however the lower windows are the same style windows as my parents 92' Shasta has. They are only 2 panes and have plastic knobs. I believe they should have been 4-5 panes with side mounted metal "T" style knob??? yes? also window is cranked open in the picture so it might look like more panes, but theres only 2. Picture was taken before interior was pulled out all the way.

Thanks for your help. Ill start my resto thread shortly.

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[Gone Kayaking]

The thing about trempro or the other poly sealants (vulkem) is that once they are on they are hell to remove I've heard, so if you are going to be removing stuff, you might want to wait til you're at the finishing point.
I don't know about your windows, no experience with newer ones. so hopefully someone else can chime in.

[offspringin]

having looked around online i think maybe these windows were original. i have seen at least a couple other 1970 models with those windows.

still curious what to seal my clearance and taillights with? if the tempro is hard to remove then that may not be the product to use on that.

i believe a PO had a bunch of putty under the lights. what should i use for this application?

[vikx]

Putty